在小企業中擁抱小企業的優勢

已發表: 2018-04-15

“假裝它,直到你成功為止。” 這就是他們有時所說的關於商業成功的說法。 但是,在您的小企業中擁抱企業是有道理的。

它給人的感覺是真實的,您的客戶與您的聯繫更加緊密,您對產品的熱情成為您的品牌。

在本期 Shopify Masters 中,您將向一位企業家(他重新設計了整個聖經圖書館以提供現代閱讀體驗)了解他是如何通過一家小型企業獲得成功的。

亞當·格林 (Adam Greene) 是 Bibliotheca 的創建者:聖經圖書館分卷,純粹是為了享受閱讀而設計的。

我不一定認為縮小客戶群是一件壞事。 您真的希望客戶了解您在做什麼並欣賞您在做什麼。

收聽學習

  • 如何通過視頻講故事
  • 為什麼您實際上不想要太多類型的客戶
  • 在產品視頻中回答什麼樣的問題

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      Felix:今天我和來自 Bibliotheca 的 Adam Green 會面。 Bibliotheca 是整個聖經圖書館,分為專為閱讀而設計的捲冊,於 2014 年啟動,總部位於北卡羅來納州。 歡迎,亞當。

      亞當:嗨,菲利克斯。 感謝您的款待。

      菲利克斯:是的。 很高興有你參加。 關於我已經提到的產品的一些細節,但你能告訴我們更多關於它的信息嗎? 原始產品背後的想法來自哪裡?

      亞當:簡而言之,我認為這個想法來自我對聖經的個人經歷,即我在一個相當僵化的原教旨主義環境中長大,聖經是一切的核心關於那種環境下的生活。 然而,它並沒有真正作為文學作品受到讚賞或享受。 所以直到很久以後,我才開始挖掘我年輕時信仰的根源,並試圖更好地理解事物,我發現了一些聖經學者的真正偉大的作品,特別是,羅伯特·阿爾特(Robert Alter),他在揭示聖經作為人類文學的價值方面做得非常好。

      以這種方式與它互動對我來說真的很令人驚訝和引人入勝。 而且我認為有一種格式會很好,這種文學的物理表達可以強調內容的這一方面,所以這就是我開始對 Bibliotheca 做的事情。

      菲利克斯:明白了。 現在,你心目中的典型買家是誰,因為你暗示的是聖經長期以來一直是這樣的。 你來了,介紹了新的消費方式,新的外觀設計。 您認為誰會購買或擁有您的一種產品?

      亞當:嗯,我必須分兩部分回答這個問題。 首先,實際上,體驗這種文學並不是一種新的方式。 文學,尤其是舊約或希伯來聖經來自口頭傳統。 因此,人們將這些故事流傳了數十萬年,直到有人最終以我們今天擁有的形式將它們寫下來。 但是當他們寫下來時,它們並沒有立刻被收集起來並呈現出來,“哦,這是舊約,這是一卷 40 多卷的書,供您閱讀。”

      它們被寫成單獨的捲軸,所以你會得到撒母耳記的第一本書作為一個捲軸,撒母耳記第二本書作為一個捲軸,創世記作為一個捲軸,或者稍後你會得到前五本書摩西作為一卷書。 但這個想法本質上是這些書作為個別的書名被傳播為個別文學作品。 所以我的項目實際上並不是想出一種新的方式,而是恢復到舊的方式,原始方式或 [聽不清 00:04:19] 遇到這些文本的原始方式。

      甚至新約文本在它們合併之前作為單獨的文本傳播了數百年,而這在很久以前......我的意思是,當它們被寫成時,它們並不被稱為新約。 事實上,它們甚至不被認為是聖經的一部分。 這也是後來的發展。 我認為這很有趣,而且很多人,尤其是在我的背景下,對聖經的製定一無所知。 我沒有; 我知道這一點,而且我知道我圈子裡的很多人對聖經的演變並不太了解,以及這些文本是如何慢慢積累和決定的。

      事實上,即使是我們看到的合併成一卷的最早版本的聖經文獻,也與我們今天的版本不一致。 換句話說,我們今天不再收錄的那些大型彙編中包含的作品。 我們確實收錄了一些未包含在一些最早的聖經文獻彙編中的作品。 所以換句話說,我們所說的聖經……我的意思是,聖經這個詞有點適用於一本書,但實際上它是許多不同作者在很長一段時間內寫的許多書。 而且,是的,那是一條很長的兔子足跡。 很抱歉解釋問題的一個方面。

      菲利克斯:不用擔心。 是的。

      亞當:但我認為這是整個項目的重要組成部分。 很多人認為,“哦,聖經以前從來沒有這樣寫過。” 但事實上,其他一些人也有點像我一樣,嗅到了聖經文學的根源和發展,幾個世紀以來也做過類似的項目。 在過去的 150 年中,可能還有六七個其他類似的項目。 所以這只是我對這一點的重申,說,“嘿,讓我們重新考慮一下。 讓我們再次談論作為文學的聖經。 並嘗試享受它。”

      無論如何,該答案的第二部分是我認為它會吸引誰。 我誠實的回答是,我真的不確定它會吸引誰。 我想也許我會得到一些藏書家,一些藏書家,也許還有一些,我不知道,神學院的學生或聖經研究的書呆子,或者什麼的。 但我們在現實中發現……我們最初是通過 Kickstarter 資助的,我們發現我們的客戶群非常多樣化。 我們有來自不同背景的人,這真的很令人高興。 我很高興看到它吸引了許多不同類型的人,許多不同年齡段的人,他們有很多不同的信仰,或者沒有信仰。

      當然,我們的大多數客戶,我會說,是基督徒,但我也很高興看到……我們有很多猶太客戶,很多無神論者,天主教徒和東正教徒,這是一個我們擁有的客戶種類繁多。 我認為那是因為……這讓我們在營銷策略上更進了一步,儘管當我想到它時,我並沒有在腦海中想到營銷策略這個詞。

      當我發起 Kickstarter 活動時,我決心不與任何特定的宗教或教派結盟。 我只是想把這些文本作為基礎的、具有不可估量的影響力的文本來呈現,它們也非常漂亮。 這就是我之前提到的羅伯特·阿爾特(Robert Alter)很好地證明的事情。 這些文本是精心製作的,其中很多,無論您是否訂閱其中任何一種宗教,它們都值得一讀。

      菲利克斯:明白了。 現在,因為有不同類型的潛在消費者、購買者、產品客戶。 您瀏覽了一整套完全不同的潛在買家。 我相信他們也有購買的理由。 如果他們購買您的產品的原因不同,您如何看待向他們進行營銷?

      亞當:嗯,對我來說,我認為營銷對我來說一直很困難。 我不是推銷員。 我討厭營銷術語。 我不能讓自己跳上那個……我不知道的潮流。 我發現……首先我會有點憤世嫉俗,然後我會嘗試變得更加積極。 我發現我所看到的是,我們當中有很多人正在努力讓我們自己的項目起步,或者努力發揮創造力。 所以我們所做的,我所看到的一種趨勢,是我們創建這些網站,我們創建這種營銷,複製所有這些行話,你在公司網站上看到的同一種行話,一家大公司。 我們試圖給人一種我們已經建立起來的印象,並且我們擁有一支龐大的團隊。

      當我們沒有建立起來時,我們沒有一個大團隊,實際上我們是有創造力的人,試圖讓項目起步,並試圖基本上跳過中間人。 我認為這就是很多 Shopify 店主正在做的事情,Kickstarters 也是如此。 這就是我資助我的項目的方式。 我們正試圖跳過中間人。 我們不想回答風險投資家或任何類型的投資者。 所以我認為這種透明度非常重要。 我認為,與其試圖讓我們與那些擁有 150 名員工的非常成熟的公司一樣,不如說我們是一樣的。 我認為只是一個想做某事的人,這會引起某種客戶的共鳴,因為他們可以與之相關,他們理解它,這是事實。 而且我認為人們可以感知到真相。

      所以我不認為營銷……我沒有在我的商業模式中實施任何正式的營銷策略。 到目前為止,我所做的只是認真對待它是什麼。 所以當你問我如何在沒有特定人群的情況下進行營銷時,我想你做什麼,或者我做什麼,無論如何,我只是把它轉回到自己身上,我說,“讓我只是告訴人們我關心什麼,向他們展示我在做什麼,而那些會回應它的人也會回應它。”

      我想,至少對我來說,我是千禧一代,我知道大多數廣告都是針對我的。 我能感覺到這一點,我認為這是通過的,有時我還是會去做。 但有時它會讓我失望,我想,“我知道你只是想讓我買你的東西。我知道你並不真正關心你的東西。我知道你並不真正關心製造你東西的人,或者它來自哪裡,或者材料的來源,你只是想用它在我的客廳裡看起來多麼漂亮,或者其他什麼東西讓我眼花繚亂。

      而且,是的,另一個兔子足跡,但我認為我想要我的客戶......我想要看到我在做什麼,理解它並欣賞它的人。 這就是我想要得到誰的注意。 而且我沒有任何特殊的方法可以縮小範圍。 但我會說,就像我之前說的,我確實試圖將宗教排除在營銷之外。 我認為這是我的產品與處理相同文獻的其他產品非常不同的一件事。 顯然,大多數出版聖經的人都是聖經出版商,而且大多數聖經出版商都是由宗教組織經營的,他們在某種程度上向他們所在宗教圈子內的人口推銷。

      Felix:為什麼採取這種方法對你來說很重要? 或者,憑直覺,為什麼將宗教排除在營銷之外,或者你展示它的方式,你正在創造什麼對你來說很重要?

      亞當:嗯,我認為首先是因為你必須真正問自己這些文本屬於誰。 很多人聲稱自己擁有它們。 它是否屬於主流新教徒,是否屬於天主教徒,是否屬於東正教基督徒,是否屬於猶太教,以及……或者我的意思是,它真正屬於什麼信仰。 我的意思是,答案是沒有人和所有人同時。 在我看來,它當然屬於每個人。 我認為它是由人類編寫的,它是為人類編寫的。 像荷馬這樣的人類文學就是人類文學。 我們應該可以接觸到它,我認為當你將宗教語言置於其之上,並通過……我的成長經歷進行營銷時,當你開始用你所在宗教圈子的語言交談時,我們稱它為“基督教”,你立即疏遠了它之外的每個人。

      例如,如果你是聖經出版商……事實上,我知道聖經出版商會這樣做,而我沒有這樣做的部分原因是,因為我試圖避免這種情況,但聖經出版商會排序以某種方式推銷他們的文本。 他們將其稱為上帝的話語,並且對於這對他們特別意味著什麼以及對他們的客戶應該特別意味著什麼,會有一種非常清晰的暗示。 我認為這很有趣,因為我不認為聖經只對那些相信聖經是超自然文本的人有價值。 所以這樣談論它有點,可能......這是一個無意的事情,我認為聖經出版商正在這樣做,但他們肯定會說,“好吧,如果你不同意我們在這裡的宣傳,那真的不是為你。” 或者他們只是想讓那些已經同意他們的人購買他們的產品。

      而且我不想為任何人規定他們應該或不應該相信什麼,來到產品。 我認為說“看,說實話”對我來說真的很重要......甚至我對這些文本的想法都非常不確定。 這個想法源於我的一次探索,當時我真的試圖弄清楚它對我意味著什麼,直到那時我一直是我整個生活的中心文本。 我真的在重新評估為什麼會這樣,是否會在未來,以及如何看待它在我的成年生活中向前發展。

      因此,這種重新評估、翻轉石頭等等催生了製作圖書館的創造性行為。 營銷也是如此,它也啟發了我不要將文本歸類到……我不想給人留下我知道它有什麼好處的印象,除了我知道它很重要。 我知道它有很大的分量,它有很大的影響力……它告訴我們很多關於我們自己的事情,無論我們是在回應它,還是拒絕它,或者在它的基礎上,它都是一種文本西方文學經典要與之抗衡。

      菲利克斯:是的。 我不確定您是否喜歡這樣想,但您確實採用了大部分已經存在的產品,對吧? 當然,已經有聖經文本了。 你把它帶到了一個以前可能被疏遠的服務不足的市場,我想。 當有聖經出版商專門為特定類型的人提供營銷和產品時,你就完美地說明了這一點,這會自動疏遠其他所有人。 你認識到,也許,直接地或者通過創建你的產品的過程,有一群人可能對聖經感興趣,他們不適合那種營銷或來自這些人的信息聖經出版商。

      現在,當談到你的方法時,聽起來你只是在傳達對你來說重要的事情,變得非常透明,你希望他們能吸引志同道合的人,或者對相同或有相同興趣的人像你一樣的激情。 你如何每天做到這一點? 你到底在做什麼來讓你的信念、你的熱情和這種透明度向世界傳播?

      亞當:嗯,我會說它是從 Kickstarter 活動開始的。 而且我認為與...一起工作真的很重要……對不起,我在這裡有點磕磕絆絆。 但我有一些非常好的朋友,他們擅長用視頻講故事,我認為那是 Kickstarter 活動中最強大的部分。 那是傳播最多的東西。 人們談論了很多。 後來它出現在列表中,這就是你製作 Kickstarter 視頻的方式。 它經過了某種檢查,並被分解為某種 Kickstarter 視頻模型。 我不能對此表示讚賞。 那是我的朋友 Danny Williams 和 Joseph McMahon 拍攝和導演的。

      而且我認為在視頻環境中講述這個故事,人們可以看到我的臉,他們可以看到我在製作產品,他們可以看到我,以及我們推出時生活中的一些人廣告系列與原型互動,只是聽到我在沒有腳本的情況下談論它真的很重要,只是講述故事。 我需要它,因為如果我只是坐在鏡頭前,給電梯推銷,正如你已經知道的那樣,我會像無人機一樣繼續前進並沿著兔子小徑前進,這並不好。 但是這些人真的很擅長指導我,他們不允許我讀劇本。 他們問我一些他們希望我回答的問題。 然後他們剪輯了這段非常漂亮的 7 分 46 秒視頻。 這比 Kickstarters 上推薦的長度要長得多。 實際上,7分46秒有點荒謬。

      但是,這又是競選活動中最強大的部分之一。 如此快進,現在我們距離該活動啟動大約三年半了。 實際上,去年秋天我們製作了一個新視頻來取代 Kickstarter 視頻,因為很明顯,Kickstarter 視頻引用了 Kickstarter 和籌款。 而且我認為我們永遠都在看到​​它,但這有點令人困惑,而且我們已經拿出了真正的書。 我們不再需要拍攝原型,所以我們只想創造一些新的東西。

      所以我們實際上在 2017 年花了很多時間來製作這個新視頻。 幾個不同的拍攝環節和錄音環節,我們給它評分,以及所有這些東西。 而且我認為這種類型的工具非常重要,一種講故事的工具,你可以說,“在這裡,就是這樣。 這就是產品。” 然後,如果人們在觀看了此類視頻後參與其中,那麼他們就可以去挖掘,尋找更具體的信息。 但這個想法是……所以,是的。

      我的意思是,真的要回答你的問題。 我現在每天都在做的是……嗯,現在我只是在做客戶服務。 我正在與那些喜歡他們的追踪號碼不起作用的客戶打交道,或者他們的產品在運輸中損壞了,這類事情。 這就是日常,少開發新項目,以及所有類似的事情。 但在 2017 年,我有點……我們在 2014 年推出了 Kickstarter。經過多次延遲,我們終於在 2016 年底出版並交付了書籍。所以去年,嗯,我們有點趕上我們的在完成書籍的這個真正激烈的衝刺之後呼吸。 我們正在重新評估,“好的。 現在,我們需要什麼內容來真正解釋這是什麼,這樣當人們訪問我們的網站時,他們就能理解它,並且可以在某種程度上決定他們是否感興趣。”

      而且它也不是便宜的產品。 這確實需要一些思考。 Shopify 很棒,因為您可以在某種程度上看到人們在購買之前對商店進行了多少次訪問。 而且我看到有很多人在實際購買之前已經多次訪問商店,因為這不是一筆小買賣。 但這本書是用非常好的材料製成的,而且材料來自善待員工的公司,而且它是由善待員工並支付高薪的公司製造的。 所以你付出的代價是值得的。

      菲利克斯:至少承諾付出代價需要一些時間,對吧?

      亞當:對。 沒有多少人願意花 199 美元買書。 書籍不再是過去那種珍貴的物品,你知道嗎?

      菲利克斯:對。 這就說得通了。 所以我確實想談談 Kickstarter 活動,因為很多成功,很多業務的起源都來自 Kickstarter 活動。 您發起了兩項活動,共籌集了超過 150 萬美元。 聽起來很多都歸結為這個視頻,你提到它超過七分鐘。 我確實看過視頻,整個視頻。 就像您說的那樣,就您的視頻應該多長時間而言,它比“推薦”的“最高轉換”要長。 為什麼你認為它對你有用? 為什麼你認為 7 分鐘的視頻對 Kickstarter 活動有效?

      亞當:嗯,我想……好吧。 所以當我發起我的活動時,我現在記得,參與其中的人幫助我建立了這個活動,給我發了一個指向這篇文章的鏈接。 就像如何籌集 100K,或者如何在 Kickstarter 上進行 100,000 美元的活動,或者類似的事情。 它一步一步地完成了所有這些你應該在你的活動中實施以確保其成功的策略,它正在創建模板以發送給博主、出版物、雜誌或任何你想展示你的產品的人。 在你發布之前有很多關於建立追隨者的事情,關於視頻應該多長以及視頻應該涉及的事情有各種各樣的事情。

      這很有說服力,我想,“好吧,如果我不做這些事情,這個活動就不會成功。” 我把那封電子郵件和那個鏈接放在一邊,心想,“好吧。 好吧,我會在發布後實施。” 我會經歷,然後我會做所有事情。 第一天,我會向博主發送電子郵件。 第二天,我會嘗試更加活躍。 當我發起競選活動時,我什至沒有 Instagram 或 Twitter 帳戶。

      所以我並沒有真正遵守規則,因此我害怕失敗,因為我認為要想成功,人們必須知道你是誰,你必須有某種追隨者。 否則,沒有人會聽到它。 但是我們在製作視頻和編寫產品描述時所採用的方法非常重要,讓我們只是告訴人們我們認為重要的是什麼。 如果這最終超過兩三分鐘,那就這樣吧。 所以我們認為,也許五分鐘會很長,但實際上最終是 00:07:46。 我說,“好吧,老實說,我不想少說這件事,我也不想讓它感到匆忙,所以讓我們把它保持在 00:07:46 看看如何確實如此。”

      所以我們做到了,而且進展非常順利。 我認為這只是因為我認為存在一個奇怪的悖論,“是的,如果我遵守本文為我制定的所有規則,我想,是的,它會成功,甚至可能比它是。” 但我認為有趣的是,特別是關於我們今天的世界,我們真的完全被營銷和廣告所飽和。 就像我說的,我們有一種非常敏感的……千禧一代對此非常敏感,因為我們一生都被廣告宣傳,只是不斷地被廣告淹沒,所以我們感覺到了。

      而且,我認為,我的競選活動的有趣之處不在於,是的,我在那裡發布了一些東西,並且我要求人們做出貢獻以使其成為現實,其中沒有營銷。 裡面沒有廣告。 這只是一個……我沒有做任何 Facebook 廣告。 我沒有發布任何 Instagram 帖子。 我什麼都沒做……我只是真的,真的想把這件事做好。 我在 Kickstarter 上的目標是 37,000,我們最終在那 30 天的活動中賺了 140 萬美元,遠遠超出了我們的預期。 而且,我認為,部分原因是當人們觀看視頻時,他們不會覺得,“哦,這傢伙只是……他想騙我的錢。” 我認為他們所看到的,事實上,我非常想製作這個東西。 我迫切希望看到它成為現實,因為我想要它為我自己,我想擁有和使用自己的東西,而且我真的認為其他人可以從中受益。

      而且我認為在這個時代,在我們生活的這個時代,遇到對一個想法感到興奮的人並不常見,不是因為他們關心它,而是因為他們認為它會產生資本。 他們認為也許五年後有人會從他們那裡購買它。 而且我不想討論這是否是……道德規範。 我真的不在乎,但我認為這就是很多人很容易出錯的地方,你想出的產品是……它的重要性可以忽略不計,也許,一些你可以用於當前 iPhone 型號的小飾品,但是當下一個 iPhone 型號問世時,你將不得不把它扔掉。 但它會被大肆宣傳,營銷會在你面前如此,有點……賣家試圖告訴你,你的生活中只需要這個東西。 你可以告訴。 你可以感覺到對這個產品沒有真正的熱情。 顯然,誰會那麼在意某些 iPhone 小工具呢? 它不會改變生活。

      但是,我認為,當你找到項目時,這些類型的項目遍布 Kickstarter。 Kickstarter 是許多不同類型項目的混合體,但我已經看到了很多項目,在這些項目中,我看到創作者真正渴望看到他們關心的東西。 Kickstarter 確實是唯一有意義的平台,因為沒有一個頭腦正常的投資者會為他們的小熱情項目捐款。 我認為這就是發生的事情。 我只是想對我想做的事情說實話,結果有點爆炸,讓我措手不及。 這也帶來了自己的問題,對競選活動的規模毫無準備,但顯然這是一個很好的問題。

      菲利克斯:對。 是的。 我認為較長的視頻格式可以讓你有時間更透明,讓人們看到激情,真實性。 而且我認為當你確實有一個較短的視頻時,可能是 1 分鐘,或者在某些情況下可能是 30 秒,你有點被迫變得更加推銷和宣傳,因為你必須把所有的東西都拿出來。 所以我認為當你有機會更多地談論意圖時,這是可能的,你發起這個活動背後的原因,創造這個產品。 當你有空間,跑道,用更長的視頻來做這件事時,你可以做一點。

      所以當你和你的團隊製作這個視頻時,並且因為你已經經歷了幾次這種經歷,你學到瞭如何通過視頻講故事?

      亞當:嗯,我確實想補充一下我剛才所說的內容。 我仍然認為在視頻的早期給出項目的要點很重要,這樣你就可以說,“簡而言之,這就是項目,就在那裡。 如果您現在只想停止觀看視頻,基本上可以。 但如果你仍然感興趣,還有更多。” 這就是我們在視頻中追求的那種氛圍,因為我們知道沒有多少人……可能不到一半的觀看次數……可能遠不到我們擁有的觀看次數的一半。你可以在 Vimeo 上衡量,有多少人們實際上是否完成了視頻。 看完視頻的人肯定不到一半。

      即使是最初的 Kickstarter 視頻,情況也一直如此。 那是我們成功的關鍵,那個視頻。 沒有多少人完成它。 所以我仍然認為在前兩分鐘說出你需要說的話很重要,但我也覺得用更多的東西來吸引人們,是的,營銷術語很重要。 你不能只是給人們一個電梯推銷,但是,當然,這取決於產品的性質。 就像我之前關於 iPhone 小工具所說的那樣,iPhone 小工具可能是我 iPhone 的一些花哨的外殼,可以幫助我利用 iPhone 的潛力。 這對我很有用,但我不希望你以它會改變我生活的事實來推銷我。 我只是想讓你告訴我它是什麼,它可能會很好,它會改善我的生活。 它必須更隨意。 我認為你必須權衡產品和營銷,它們必須匹配。

      Felix:我認為在這種情況下,一個超長的視頻是一個非常清晰的產品,一個非常明確的理由,而你把它做得太長可能甚至不合適,對,可能行不通,因為我可能會想,“為什麼要我需要一個 7 分鐘的視頻來解釋 iPhone 外殼。”

      亞當:對。 正確的。 所以,是的,您必須為您要交付的內容找到合適的工具。 這一直是我在思考的事情。 而且我覺得我們製作視頻的方式,以及我們製作圖像和語言的方式都適合我個人對文本的看法,那就是它非常重要,而且讀起來很有價值,讀起來很愉快。 而現代的物理對像是……重要的是要考慮它們是如何製造的,以及它們是如何到達我們身邊的,因此它具有這種重要性。

      有時,老實說,我什至覺得我們自己的視頻有點過於戲劇化,但這只是有時,因為我只有在擔心別人會怎麼想時才會有這種感覺。 老實說,我確信我們已經失去了一些客戶,因為他們認為,“哦,我的天哪。 這些人只是把自己看得太認真了。” 這傢伙很可笑或其他什麼,但沒關係,我想,因為我覺得在一天結束時我是真誠的,我能夠真正傳達我想要傳達的東西。

      而且我不一定認為縮小客戶群是一件壞事。 你真的希望客戶了解你在做什麼,並且欣賞你在做什麼。 如果你只是想讓盡可能多的人購買你的東西,那麼你將遇到更多難對付的客戶。 而且,是的,你不想那樣,所以。 我會說,我們有非常棒的客戶。

      菲利克斯:明白了。 現在,您提到了幫助您製作此視頻的兩個朋友。 他們通過在視頻中向您提出具體問題來幫助您回答。 你還記得其他 Kickstarter 活動創建者、任何正在創建視頻的人在講述他們的產品、他們的公司的故事時會提出哪些更普遍的問題嗎? 他們應該嘗試在這些視頻中回答什麼樣的問題?

      亞當:嗯,我認為非常重要的,尤其是對我的項目來說,是為什麼的問題。 你為什麼這麼做? 為什麼你認為這很重要? 這是一個很難問的問題,所以很容易給出一種膚淺的答案並繼續前進,或者根本不回答,直接轉向什麼。 這是什麼? 它是什麼? 我認為這是你真正想要真正關注的事情,就是思考為什麼。 我什至不知道我們最初的 Kickstarter 視頻是否很好地回答了這個問題,但我記得這對我來說真的很難回答,而且我知道他們使用了我的一些答案來製作視頻。

      And so that I think is what will set a product apart is if you have a creator, or a team of creators who are really passionate about this thing, this product that they're making. You want to know why. You want to know why they're so passionate about it. Why do they care so much? And if they just jump right in to what it is, I think it's easy for potential customers to kind of get lost. Traditional marketing strategies is here's why you want this, basically. Here's why you need this in your life. But, I think, a lot of people in our generation, like I said, much more sensitive to that. And I think often times what we're looking for, more than why I need it in my life, is why does it exist in the first place. Does it have a purpose? And who are the people behind it? 它從哪裡來的? That's what I want to know as a consumer. And I think that's what a lot of other people want to know, so that's the type of thing I try to communicate when I'm talking about my projects.

      Felix: Now, you mentioned that this video, the latest one, was you also had got the video scored. Were you a part of that process as well?

      Adam: Yes. It was a long and painstaking process. It's hard because I'm not a particularly musical person. I certainly don't know anything about music theory, but I worked with someone to create an original score. And it was, yeah, and so I'm giving him all these descriptions like it needs to be a little bit more neutral here, maybe a little bit darker there, or maybe a little bit lighter there. Of course, he just kind of has to take stab at it when he goes back to the recording studio. But it was a lot of fun, and I'm really glad we did it.

      I think it is really well suited to the new video. It's really somber, very atmospheric, and it's all cello. So it feels very organic and, yeah, I enjoyed it. But it was a challenge for me, because I am probably the most difficult possible client to have when it comes to that sort of thing, because I'm so opinionated, and I'm so particular. But I didn't really have the tools so I felt bad for, Chris was his name, Chris Joye, JOYE, but he was incredibly patient with me, and spent a lot of time really trying to understand what was I was going for, the emotion I was going for. And I think he nailed it.

      菲利克斯:太棒了。 Yeah, just watching the video, the second one, I mean, certainly the sound is very immersive. It does pull you in. What made you decide to go down this route instead of just finding, maybe, paying … I'm not sure how much it cost to purchase some kind of soundtrack, I guess, for your video. But why not go down that route, and just kind of be done with it? What made you decide that you wanted to create something original?

      Adam: It was actually the directors. The same two guys who did the original video on Kickstarter, they did this newer video that we have up on our website. And Daniel and Joseph were … they didn't force me into it, but they did twist my arm a little bit. And sort of say, “You really … this footage is really good.” We worked with one of their really good friends, Eric, to shoot the footage. And we rented these really nice Cooke lenses, and the footage was just looking so beautiful. And they were thinking, “We might as well just go all the way, and get an original score done for this.” And so I said, “OK. Well, who do we work with.” And they gave me a recommendation.

      And there were a few points where I thought, “Man, this is a lot of work. This is a lot more money than I would have to spend.” In fact, the first video, the Kickstarter video, we used an artist whose name is Chris Zabriskie, and he makes all of his music available for free. You don't even have to pay him a royalty. You just have to give him a credit, which I think is really cool. He's got all this music up on Spotify, and SoundCloud, and all sorts of different venues where you can access his music, listen to it for free, download it for free, and even use it in your videos for free as long as you credit him.

      And we had used him for several videos, because we did a couple update videos as well throughout the Kickstarter process. We did another video for a Kickstarter gold campaign that we did last year. And then we were actually planning on using him for this video until they sort of cut the footage together, and said we should get an original score done. But that was appealing to me, the idea. The video from start to finish would kind of be from scratch that everything that we used in the video would have been really made exclusively for the video. We didn't use any stock footage, and we didn't use any music that was recorded for another purpose. We commissioned our own composer to make a song. He commissioned his own musicians to record it, and that just kind of made it feel a little bit more special to me. And we wanted this newer video to function for a long time, and we want it to be the introduction of Bibliotheca to the next five years of people who come and visit our website.

      Felix: So for anyone else out there that wants to invest in creating their own video first of all, and then also getting an original score for it. Do you have an idea of how much time or how much budget you need? You don't give us these [inaudible 00:45:44] by your particular set up, but if they are to get started down this route. How much are we talking about in terms of time commitment, or how much would it cost?

      Adam: Well, videos are a lot of work. But I think they are the most important tool, especially for Kickstarter campaign, to being successful, at least and that's been my experience. And I don't really know, I mean, it's hard to give a ballpark, because it just really depend on what your needs are, and where you're shooting, and if you need actors or not, and et cetera, et cetera. But I will say for the original Kickstarter campaign, I worked with really good friends. And they knew that I didn't have any money [inaudible 00:46:31]. But I insisted on paying them, and then they very kindly quoted me a low price. But, obviously, the success of the campaign enabled me to go back to them afterwards, and say, “OK. Really, guys, how much is this worth.”

      But they were willing, had I failed or had I just barely met my goal. They were willing to work for less than probably what their time was worth, definitely less than what their time was worth, because [inaudible 00:47:04] friends. But videos aren't cheap. 那是另一回事。 The last video that we made, I really want everyone whose involved to feel like they're being compensated well, because I want them to be invested in the project. There were a few times where I thought, “Man, how can I stay within my budget here, and should I be doing this original score, or not. 我不知道。” But, yeah, it's a huge time investment if you want to be involved in the decision making. And I am very much one of those founders who, probably, to a fault wants to be really involved with everything that is out there, and available to the public to see about our company and our product.

      And, yeah, I mean, we're definitely for the most recent video, we invested a lot of money, thousands of dollars. Probably over $10,000 into that video. But I'm just doing the math in my head really quick, because I haven't looked at … I'm not looking at our monthly statements or anything right now, but it was a huge investment. But I think over the five year to ten years span of time that we hope that video will work for us, I think, it will definitely pay for itself. But the original video for the Kickstarter campaign, that was just some friends working together. I asked friends to be in it. We didn't pay actors for that. We just went over to a friend's house, and shot a bunch a friends, and asked some people to come out to the coffee shop, or the bookstore, and film them there.

      And I think that's important. It's interesting that, in a way, that the low budget video that we created was the more successful video. Obviously, I haven't even announced this new video. We haven't done a campaign with it. It just sort of appeared on our website one day. But it's working for us now on a daily basis. People come and they visit the website, and that's one of the first things they see. But it's interesting to think about how the first video that we really just kind of threw together on a low budget, and there were a lot of things that went wrong with it. One of the scenes we were supposed to shoot at, they had to cancel on us at the last second, so we had to find a different place to shoot. And we didn't have any money [inaudible 00:49:55] time.

      But it was the heart of the project, I think, carried that video through and made it successful. We were working with really standard equipment, just everybody's purse. We didn't rent any fancy things. It was just very straightforward, and that, I think, it says a lot for what you can do with what's available to you.

      菲利克斯:是的。 I think you hit it on the head where it is a big time and capital investment, but it's not something that can you just create once then use it once. It can be extended for a very long time. You're projecting 5, 10 years, and it could probably exist on multiple different platforms for you as well.

      Successful on Kickstarter; successful on your website. Are there any other places that you try to get your video out to, or do you try to cut it up in any way to fit into other mediums?

      Adam: Sure. 是的。 We haven't done any … It's kind of a weird thing with me where we haven't done any paid advertising yet, but we're getting to the point now where we probably should, but I'm having a hard time with the fact that I'll have to stop saying that we've never done any paid advertising. But we have, actually, already created some really short Instagram videos from the footage that we took for the newest video by even just cutting out portions of that video, or taking footage that we weren't able to use in the video, and using it in different ways. And so we kind of just have a backstock of things that we can use in different environments whether it's on Instagram, or Facebook, or Twitter, which really are the only places I really imagine us doing any paid advertising in the future.

      But we still haven't really figured out the specifics of that or how we're going to approach that, but yeah, it was definitely a worthwhile investment. We have way more footage than we put in the video that we can continue to use, and draw from. We're actually already in the process of developing another video out of the footage that we made, and all it'll take is basically for me to record new voiceover. We want to make a video specifically about the translation that we used. And so I just need to record some new voiceover, and then they can use the footage they weren't able to use for the video we have up on our site now. It was definitely a great investment. And I feel really good about it.

      But, yeah, and Facebook, and Twitter, and Instagram … I have been surprised [inaudible 00:53:02] think, again, Shopify sort of lets you know where your traffic is coming from. A lot of it comes from Twitter, and it's been very organic, because I don't get on Twitter, promote my product, or anything like that. People will post a photo of their books, or they'll say something nice about it, and direct people to our site. It's been sort of surprising. Twitter is sort of the last place I thought would be where we would get customers, but we get a lot of traffic coming form Twitter.

      菲利克斯:是的。 It's really not one of the number one social media platforms as much lately, but that's impressive that a lot is coming from Twitter. So when you are creating these videos specifically for ads, how do you approach it differently? How do you decide what … because, obviously, you can't be seven minutes long, time, when it's on Instagram or Facebook video ads. How do you decide what should into that shorter time frame?

      亞當:是的。 這是一個艱難的。 We struggle with that a little bit, and had a little bit of back and forth with my video guys where we're sort of trying to figure that out, because we want to bring the same kind of slow, and relaxed feeling to the Instagram ads, except it can't really be slow, because people are literally scrolling down to their feet, and they're just going to pass over it if you don't get to the point. But what we have found is actually that when people just look at the product, they respond.

      We found historically that it kind of captures peoples attention. So our strategy for those shorter videos has been: All right, let's put the product in front of people right away. And the product sort of … It begs the question: What is this thing? It looks like something I'd be interested in touching, or pulling out, and opening, and seeing what's inside. 告訴我更多關於它。 That's kind of the reaction that we've gotten from people when they don't know anything about it, and they see it. And so that's sort of been our approach for the Instagram thing is let's just put the product there, up front, and then they can read more about it.

      Felix: So it's more product focused this time?

      Adam: Yes. It's definitely more product focused. There's less of a roundabout kind of explanation. It's more like here's this thing; it's almost like a surprise. We did a giveaway on Instagram, and it was just we posted a picture of the product, and it said giveaway on the post, and then it basically said, “Win this Bible.” And then, yes, it's a Bible. And that's sort of the surprising thing for people when they see it, and they think, “What. That's not a Bible. I've never seen a Bible that looks like that before.” And so that sort of pieces is like the intriguing-

      Felix: Curiosity.

      亞當:是的。 “That's the trick we play” to get people's attention.

      Felix: I like it. 驚人的。 So thank you so much for your time, Adam. So bibliotheca.co that's bibliotheca.co is the website. Where do you want to see this go this year? What do you want to take that the products that you're creating that the company that you're creating … Where do you want to see it go this year?

      Adam: Well, Bibliotheca, it's kind of become its own thing. And it still requires some attention and a lot of customer service, because we have a lot of customers, and it's kind of a heavy product, and there's shipping issues, and things like that. So it has a life of its own, and we're maintaining it, but really what I want is to create something new this year, or several new things this year. And another goal that I have, eventually, for Bibliotheca is, I think, all the funding that we got on Kickstarter allowed us to create a really, really nice product. And we were able to deliver that to all of our Kickstarter backers for the $75 contribution they made, or the $85 preorders after the campaign, et cetera.

      But the backstock that we ordered kind of … Because we made everything super premium, we used all the nicest materials, all the inventory that we have we kind of have to sell for a higher price to keep things moving to kind of pay for overhead, and to make it worthwhile. So my goal also is to create a more affordable version of Bibliotheca sometime in the near future whether it's this year, and the next three or four years. And we're talking to, actually, some publishers who want to help us do that. So they kind of have the infrastructure to do that. But otherwise, yeah, I'm ready to publish some other texts in a really nice format. And I'm excited to a launch a few new projects, hopefully, in 2018.

      菲利克斯:太棒了。 Thank you again so much for your time, Adam.

      亞當:是的。 謝謝你,菲利克斯。 感謝您的款待。

      Felix:這是下一集 Shopify Masters 的預告片。

      演講者 3:直接從 Kickstarter 轉到 Indiegogo。 所以有人看到了一個舊的 Facebook 帖子。 即使 Kickstarter 結束,他們仍然可以購買產品。

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